
The notorious, euphoria-inducing Belgian band Soulwax continued to do what they do best and destroyed an Ambassador full of people’s inhibitions with their pounding remixes from their new release, Most of the Remixes.
Re-workings of LCD Soundsystem, Robbie Williams and Felix da Housecat ignited an already charged crowd into strobe-esque movements while we pogo-ed in unison. Wincing as sweat-filmed skin peeled on and off my own, arbitrary elbows from some blur in the crowd jabbed the air and stilettos haphazardly syringed my feet, I took a moment to look fondly back on more hygienic times when only a little while earlier I had been sitting comfortably upstairs in Soulwax’s changing room. Greeted by the Dewaele brothers, core members of the band, they wasted no time in making us feel welcome, offering plenty of champagne, beer and other various food and drink littering the room. Displaying equal benevolence with their time, I got a chance to ask them a few questions…
You’ve just released your new album – Soulwax, most of the remixes… and it has loads of different stuff on it from Kylie, LCD Soundsystem. Did you find it hard to get copyright clearance from anyone?
David: Eh no, the reason we did the album with EMI, is because they own the rights for most of the artists.
Stephen: Yea it was really convenient ‘cause most of the people used to be on Virgin or like Parlophone.
D: It was really easy.
S: They were like-‘hey yeah, we got 15 other tracks you guys can remix.’
So there wasn’t anyone who you remixed who you couldn’t put on this CD?
D: No I mean they had a few, people who wouldn’t pick up the phone, that kinda stuff and the next week they did, it wasn’t kinda, nothing…
S: No big stories
D: Kinda boring
S: All boring stuff
(Voice in the backround: Make it sound exiting!)
D: Oh yea, well ok, the Klaxons they were real assholes.
S: Those guys especially, and LCD were rude, they were just rude.
(Same voice in backround: LCD Shitsystem, that’s what.)
S: Ooh quote/unquote…And Justice they were being French to us, you know like, ooh I don’t like your remix, Daft Punk they don’t even acknowledge the fact that we exist.
I hope you do the same to them.
S: Yea I ignore them, I’m like Robot? No you’re not! No actually it was all really easy, there’s a couple that we didn’t put on there, very few, but there’s one from a Mexican Band called Moderato which we did a couple of years ago which we really liked. But there’s only… we didn’t have enough… there wasn’t physically enough time on one c.d. to put it on and it was also a really fast tempo so we didn’t put it on there. That would have been one that we would have really loved to put on there, but which we skipped but maybe now, some kid will put it on a blog and it’s out there…
So you’re not going to be playing it tonight, it’s not going to be included?
S: The Mexican song? It’s really hard ‘cause we don’t understand what he’s saying, we actually did a remix and we completely did the remix without knowing what he’s saying but they love it. So I guess we kinda made some sense, cause we cut up his vocals a little bit but there’s no way I could sing that cause I don’t even understand what he’s saying, so we’re not playing that one, maybe we should if we go to South America, it’s a really good idea…
D: I hate to be the theoretical analyst but Mexico is really Central America not South America.
S: Yea you’re right.
Have any of the artists you remixed responded to your mixes?
D: Well I guess 75%, or maybe 72% of the people that are on the album are friends of ours…(thinks) maybe 68%.
S: How bout 23?
D: And you know we know them personally so, either they were…either they didn’t tell us honestly what they thought of it and they just lied, but most of them said they liked it.
Do you feel more pressure to do a good remix because you know them?
D: Yea it’s tough, it’s tougher for… there’s a few that we don’t know but we love, like Daft Punk and when we got to get asked to do DJ Shadow we were like ‘oooh Shadow!’ and it’s tough. It’s tough because there’s other people like say Robbie, who we like but we didn’t really care about the track, it’s easier to remix a track that you don’t really like.
Cause you feel like you can improve it?
S: Or fuck it up.
Or have a different take on it?
S: Yea yea, yea, but Shadow was hard cause, like we said yes, but we listened to the track and we were like ‘ahhh, this is like really slow, folky’ and I mean it’s nice when it’s someone you really respect but it’s easier when it’s someone who you can be like ‘ok let’s see what we can do with, like Robbie Williams or the Sugababes or something like that.’
Robbie Williams, Sugababes, they’re kinda like mainstream, do you find that people dismiss mainstream artists today, how do you feel about it?
D: Yea we do the same, yea booo, no I mean, why would you say today, yea we like mainstream. I mean we could get into a longer discussion about the mainstream but it used to be good, it used to be really good.
S: When was that?
D: I think, anytime between 1955 and …
S: Long pause, long pause.
D: No I’m trying to think….89?
S: 89? So 91 the mainstream sucked.
D: No I’m just saying as a general, obviously there were good things in the 90’s that were hits
S: Like Spaceman by Babylon Zoo, would that be great or would that be seen as…
Midnight Mike (to David) : What identifies the thing that made this great shift?
D: Money
S: Yea but that was always one of the biggest factors.
MM: Yea but more money being made
D: Yea so more shit being made
Do you think artists feel obligated to make the same kind of records because they are under pressure from their labels not to deviate from that?
D: It’s not necessarily the labels, its just the whole… everyone’s scared, everyone’s just scared and I think that when the music industry was really booming say, 70’s, I think that there was just like this spirit of yea lets just make a crazy record and we’ll sell millions. People were more open-minded then they are now. It’s a shame and you know it’s getting worse and worse ‘cause 5 years ago there were still things in the mainstream that I think were great quality but to give a good example someone like Bowie today, he wouldn’t get signed by any record company because he’s too much of a risk. Even if it’s good, it’s potentially good, it’s too much of a risk and people don’t take risks anymore.
S: (to Midnight Mike as he leaves to perform) Watch out for the mainstream!
MM: It’ll take me away like a river
How do you approach remixing, how would you go about choosing the songs?
S: Every remix has a different story and I think the ones that are the coolest are the ones where we decided to choose the song ‘cause we liked the song and we played it, like the Gossip song. They asked us to do a remix and we never actually had time and when ‘Standing in the way of Control’ came out we played it as DJ’s but we found it was not fast enough and we wanted to make it sound bigger and we actually asked them can we remix it and that’s a good way of doing it cause it’s the reverse way but we knew what we wanted to do. It was clear from the beginning that was the thing that needed to be done. I think the Justice one is the same in the way that it went but then they’re all different, each one has a different story, they’re all like… its not like we… cause the Shadow one, like Dave says, and the Daft Punk one, you’re kinda intimidated but that’s it, but at the same time I respect as much James Murphy from LCD. I rate him as high as I rate Shadow and all these people but I know him so that makes it even harder for us, but I think we’ve learned to deliver what people want. In the beginning we used to do, say the Kylie one, we used to be a little more like stubborn and do rock versions but now I mean people just want to dance, want to go crazy, want to put fluorescent glasses on.
So you got Soulwax and 2 Many DJ’s, do you feel like your background with performing with instruments in Soulwax has helped you in djing and making the remixes?
S: Yea definitely, I think the fact that we are all good at playing our stuff, we play instruments, we play live, like say tonight we play the remixes live which is pretty hard. Steve has to change his drum sounds every song, I have to manipulate the vocals to sometimes sing the vocals, like in the Gossip and like Kylie I can’t do it so we found this thing where we can fuck them up live on stage but it’s hard work. But I think the fact that, it’s a little bit the same with LCD, we’re all rock kids or punk kids and we’re all used to playing in bands and we all know what its like to be on a bus and play in toilets so all of this is a holiday, it’s a fucking picnic, its amazing, its really amazing and I do think we challenge ourselves to be more, I wouldn’t say emergent but I think we have the same attitude as rock bands but we play it with synths, so we kinda change the guitars for synths although today we will use some guitars.
With 2 many djs and with your remixing, would that ever influence what you are doing with Soulwax?
D: Well to be quite specific about it, all the remixes were made as Soulwax, but they were made with the intention of playing them as 2 many DJ’s so not many 2 many DJ’s would influence Soulwax.
So they’re not completely separate?
S: We don’t separate them, we have to put lines, we have to do it sometimes cause otherwise we are like ‘aahh’ but it actually is the same thing for us, we DJ, we play in the band, we remix, and for us it’s just another discipline.
As regards influences, you mention explicitly Ghent in the very long title of your album, it must be an influence on you, or is it?
D: The city? It’s just where were from, I don’t know, I mean obviously wherever you live is a massive influence on whatever but I don’t know if it’s tangible.
Do you think though if you grew up somewhere else, like has it got an especially good music scene or…
D: Well first of all its apathetic, there’s no way you can know, but yea we do think that we’re kinda like a product of partially of where we live but I don’t know, I don’t know if we would have grown up in Poland it would have been different.
S: There’s like 250,000 people, it’s actually a small town but there are a lot of students and there’s a lot happening, like it was the first place to have a techno label called RNS and I always think that a lot of people from the north of France and Holland always came to Ghent. It’s in between cultures, it’s always been an interesting place, but it’s also never, it’s also small, tiny which is the reason why, I think a lot of people haven’t heard about it and maybe we kinda fucked it up. But it’s such a small town, the more people from outside come in, the more people from there start thinking oh we’re Paris and they’re like, you’re not. You can drive your bicycle from one end to the other and it’s done.
What other influences would have affected you? Your dad being a dj?
D: No
S: I don’t think his DJing was an influence, I think the fact that all his records were in the house and we stole all of them, that was the biggest influence but it also meant that Dave and me used to go to gigs and concerts when we were young and we would be… it was a different upbringing to a lot of other kids. I do think we had access to all these things but then some other kids whose dads we know who were also DJ’s ended up being dentists.
You said that heavy rock bands would have influenced Soulwax, but what would have influenced you as 2 many DJ’s, dance-wise?
S: I don’t know. I do think as 2 Many DJs we were influenced by a lot of rock stuff, I don’t think there’s one particular dance band or people or DJ that really influenced us but I think it was a lot of things, but it wasn’t only dance music so… and I do think as for Soulwax, I do think that we were influenced by Kyuss and Monster Magnet and all these bands. I do think that’s always been our core, as rock bands we like rock music. I like 15% of dance music but there’s 85% of bullshit. But I love…and it’s something that really gets me going, I say the first Daft Punk record was really a big influence on us cause I think it showed you that you could make electronic music but have the same attitude as a punk record or like a metal record or something.
Is DJing just something that you fell into?
S: The 2 many DJ’s thing is just something that just happened but I mean we always DJ-ed before like when we had the band, and I started DJing with Steve and then he left for a girl to New York, it’s always a girl, and then I asked Dave to DJ with me and we became 2 Many DJs and it’s all because we were bored. Playing with the band we’d spend so much time doing nothing and we’d be like cool let’s do…and we’d always be done at like 9 o’ clock because we’d be doing support for some band, let’s say for Muse or something like that, which was fun but you’d be there and be like cool what will we do now and you would always end up in a bar, at a club and be like hey, cool let’s ask if we can DJ and that’s how it all started.
It’s really…there was no plan like hey let’s do this, and I think we started playing a lot of stuff that people were either pissed off about or like really happy about. People were like ‘you can’t play the Stooges you have to play house music’, and then other people would be like ‘yea you played the Stooges’ and we’d be like ‘okay cool’.
Do you have any favourite remixes that you have done, or maybe a fairer question would be to ask if there are any remixes that you are especially proud of?
S: No it always differs for us, but I think I really like the last one we did for LCD Soundsystem ‘Get innocuous’. I really like that one, but that’s not even on the album so therefore and I always think that it’s going to be the last thing that we’ve done because it’s newest. But it’s fun like tonight to play live, it actually shows that we put a lot of work in there. Yea they’re more then sometimes remixes, we have to re-write the whole song sometimes.
So you’re proud of this?
S: I’m proud of this, I’m proud of night versions, of 2 Many DJs, of Soulwax, of stuff that we’ve done as production. I mean for me, I know it’s all different for people but it’s the same for me, everything is the same for me, it’s all music and me having fun with it.
Is there anything in particular that you play that everyone goes crazy for?
S: When we DJ or when we play with the band? Cause they’re very similar.
Both.
S: I think when we play with the band and we play the Justice remix they go crazy. They go really nuts.
So do you enjoy it because of that?
S: No actually no, its extra, its extra when you do something that you really like and people are like wow, you can tell some tracks really…but its good because you start understanding how crowds react to things, to dance music. A build up, a breakdown, it’s a bit like the Pixies. You have the verse which is like the bass line, the drums, the vocals and then when the chorus comes in it like kicks in. Its like build, un-build, there’s a structure to music, music has a definition and I think the more we play it the more we understand how it works. (laughs) We unlearn it then.
Would you tend to follow these structures or do you try and experiment with different ideas?
S: You mean in the studio? No I think we try and fuck it up but I mean there’s always going to be a build up, a breakdown, something, but say in the Robbie one, we stretch it out, and people are going ‘ahh give us something’. I think we’re really really really…I mean someone told me that when you’re on E or something and you come to see us DJ or something, like it really freaks you out because we play with it the whole time and apparently when you’re on drugs its not good. I don’t do that many drugs so I don’t know, I’ve never done drugs in my whole self, but Steve once I think, was on a lot of drugs and he was like ‘you guys are freaking me out’.
Your tickets should have a warning on them…
S: Yea it’d be a good warning though, (puts on a cheerful voice) ‘Don’t go when you’re on drugs’
What have you planned for Soulwax or 2 Many DJs or do you have another project on top of that?
S: I think we’re going to start making a new 2 Many DJs record and new Soulwax record soon, we’re going to produce Tiga’s record, we’re releasing a new movie that we’ve done that Sam’s been filming the last 2 years and actually there’s footage of Electric Picnic, there’s a lot of good stuff on it, it’s good.
And when is that coming out?
S: I think it’s going to be February.
And is it going to be a DVD release?
S: I think it will be DVD but we’re going to try and film copies so we can play at venues and show it.
That will be good.
S: I know, I think it will too.
