
Menomena were not that well known outside of their native Oregon when they bounced into 2007 on the back of their record ‘Friend and Foe’. But as that record gathered countless rave reviews and plaudits, things quickly changed. ‘Friend and Foe’ was a remarkably intricate piece of work, stuffed full of playful looping arrangements and melodic charm. It also came neatly wrapped in what is bound to go down in history as one of the coolest album covers ever, a dizzying, scrawled psychedelic menagerie with rotational settings. Because they used their own specifically designed software to record individual loops of instrumentation, the record felt different when compared to your bog standard indie release. It was fluid, elastic, like it was made out coloured rubber balls and twisting neon. Well, to me it was anyway. Ahead of an extensive European tour that will include a date in Dublin on February 29th, I spoke to one third of Menomena, guitarist Brent Knopf. He’s a really nice guy who says ‘totally’ a lot.
It’s been nearly a year since ‘Friend and Foe’ came out. So what kind of a year has it been for Menomena?
It’s been incredible, so much fun. Friend and Foe came out in the US a year ago but it just got released in Europe last September. And it’s been amazing because we started off, like playing a show a year ago in Denver to, like ten people. And from there we’ve been able to play some sold out shows and even go to Europe for the first time. And it’s been so busy, I got fired from my waiting tables job ‘cos I was away from work so much…
So Menomena better work out for you huh?
[laughter] Eh, yeah. It better.
Okay so I’ve noticed on your Myspace page, there are some nice mock up posters of classic 80s family movies starring Menomena and I was wondering if you could arrange for one to be made starring me? I’d like to be Elliott cycling his bike in front of the moon in the poster for ET.
Totally, no problem. We’ll just delete all our posters and replace them with ones of you. How does that sound?
Ha ha sounds cool thanks. So on the topic of band art, the amazing cover of your album ‘Friend and Foe’ record has given lots of people hours of fun, and I was wondering what the next stage in interactive album art is? Like will you be able to bring it up a level for the next record?
Emm, maybe. But can you tell me what the higher level is because I’m dying to know.
I dunno, how about a three dimensional hologram or something?
Yeah totally. Or how about every new CD will be its own nuclear reactor. We’ve been able to buy a lot of enriched uranium from Sudan and each CD will play Menomena and power your home.
So Menomena aim to tackle the global energy crisis as well?Totally. That’s what we’re all about. Solving global crises.Ha ha, well following on from that, how important is the design element of your music? Like the actual physical design of your records and stuff?
Well we look at the artwork like we look at the music. We try to challenge ourselves to make an experience that’s worth revisiting. Our first album was packaged in a flip book and that took a long time to make. With ‘Friend and Foe’ we had a chance to collaborate with Craig Thompson who is a genius and our goal with him was to make an experience that people are intrigued by and hopefully come back too. Hopefully that’s the thing with our music too. Hopefully people will listen to our songs more than once and on subsequent listens will hear something different each time.
So what album covers by other bands do you rate?Well I think Tool have done a good job. Their most recent one had 3D goggles on it. The one before that had a sort of multi-layered anatomy textbook and the one before that was some sort of animated thing. I respect their work a lot. How about you, what are your favourites?
Emm, I like that Spiritualized cover. You know the one that’s like a medicine packet with its own prescription and you burst the foil to take out the CD? That’s cool.
Yeah it is. That’s awesome.
So your album artwork got nominated for a Grammy award right? Are you bummed that it was your album cover and not the music that got nominated for the award?
[Laughs] No, naturally because the music sucks.
Okay to change track. Nearly every piece that’s written about Menomena mentions the software programme called Deeler that you made and used to record loops for both albums. They pretty much go on about it as if you reinvented the wheel with this thing. So I was wondering, did you ever think of putting a patent on it, making some money?
You know I was always so poor and exhausted. I was working a couple of jobs and trying to do the band on the side. I didn’t have any resources to explore what I could do with it in that regard. I always used to show it to people, and I’d get blank stares. It just ended up being really useful for us. Although I ended up rewriting it and it became incredibly complicated and digital. I basically went insane and wasn’t able to finish it. It got too unwieldy, there were bugs I couldn’t trace. And since then I think there is new software that came on the market that can basically do the same thing.
Sure. So it won’t become an all-consuming scientific obsession that could destroy Menomena?
No I think there will be a different obsession that will do that to me. I tend to go in stages. Since then I got obsessed with doing a music video, and built a kind of home made motion controlled camera device. I built all these sets, and characters, a storyboard and then I had to put it in a box and it lived in boxes for two or three years and then it got resurrected and made into the video for evil bee.
To continue with Deeler- Did the stuff you recorded with it need to be dragged kicking and screaming to the point where you could play it live or was it easier than that?
Our music tends to be very layered and we are only three people so it can be a challenge to choose which layers to perform. So if you come see us live you will see that sometimes Justin is playing the sax and at the same time playing the foot synthesiser, and that Daniel is pretty much playing drums and singing at the same time. So yeah it can be a challenge. But once we get going and hit our groove it feels really good. Some people say they prefer the live show to the album.
Okay because I was going to ask that. Just how different does ‘Friend and Foe’ sound live? Because it seems to me to be more a kind of headphones-suited studio album.
Well, it’s louder. It’s sparser too, but more dynamic, and usually we play the songs a little faster. It works well, but it’s different.
In between your two well known albums, you recorded a lesser known record, which contained instrumental music for an experimental dance company. Was this a pretentious folly or a sign of things to come?
Ehh, both. It was a miscalculation on our part because we thought when ‘I am Fun Blame Monster’ came out there were all these sort of punky bands like the Rapture and the Strokes and we thought, clearly, the next big thing is gonna be instrumental dance music [laughs]. We tried to beat everyone to the punch, but it turns out we were wrong. But it was really a good experience. It’s an album that not many people know about but when we play shows people will often come up to us and tell us it’s their favourite. It’s not for everyone, but we are happy we did it because it gave us the opportunity to collaborate with an amazing dance group.
Okay, another quick change of topic. My friend took one look at your album artwork for ‘Friend and Foe’ and he also heard that your recording software is called ‘Deeler’ and now he’s convinced that you are all on hard drugs. Is this true or will I have to disappoint him?Well I don’t really think crack cocaine is a hard drug. Do you?
Well I suppose in moderation its fine. A nice way to relax on a Sunday afternoon right? Yeah, and as long as Amy Winehouse is with us, we feel comfortable.
So Amy is a spiritual inspiration for Menomena?
Totally.
Okay last question about music. Are you working on a follow-up to ‘Friend and Foe’ yet?Yes [pause]No more information other than that?
Emm. Okay yes. We’re writing lots of baby songs, I call them fragments or baby songs because they are just ideas for songs. You might call them embryos and we are extracting stem cells from them.
Stem cell songs huh? So you won’t be voting Republican because they won’t let you record your own music?
Ha ha that’s right. No, we’re working out ways to record these baby songs, we have over a dozen of them so far and maybe more than half of them will never become viable and reach maturity. But we’re starting that process and taking old Deeler sessions and mixing them. It’s going okay so far.
Finally, a question for our under-12 readers. What’s your favourite colour?
My favourite colour is… polka dot.