LCD Soundsystem
Monday, November 26th, 2007

First of all, I have to dispel a rumour that you are from Limerick-is it true?
Well I am from New Jersey. I am three or four generations into the States and everybody is from Cork, I mean EVERYBODY. They all go back to the one place. My great grandparents are the most recent but that didn’t stop my grandmother from having an Irish accent. It’s true.
So, you have just come back from a tour with Arcade Fire. How was that?
It was great. It was really different. It was kind of nice to just not be in charge. It was like a festival. I kind of enjoyed it. I didn’t think I would. I didn’t think I would enjoy fitting into someone else’s schedule but I really enjoyed it.
You did a 7” single with the band. How did that come about? Did you all just sit down and decide to do a single together?
Well I don’t know. Things with us just happened pretty organically. Like we knew them and we met them a bunch of times and did a bunch of festivals and we got to know them more and more. I‘ve known some of them for a few years now and just kind of enjoyed playing at festivals together and hanging out. We could hang out with all the guys in the band and get along with them and it seemed like such and interesting thing to do. We thought it would be cool to do something with someone else. Like have a double bill more or less.
So the tour was more or less a double bill?
Yeah! It kind of lets off the pressure somewhat. It was not like some weird jerk headlining. It was like “Oh it’s just like a festival”. It worked out great.
You were brought up in a small town in New Jersey and your only musical outlet was the Princeton Record Store. Can you describe it?
It was a pretty incredible store. It still is. It’s still worth driving down from New York to. Princeton is a big university town. I lived in the town next to Princeton, which was not a big university town. It was an old classical and jazz record store, which was famous around the world. It was old and tiny. Originally it was a storage room with a tiny front. What they originally did was make copies of what they had and send them to Germany and Japan and people would order it by mail-very rare jazz records and pristine classical records. Eventually one of the guys who worked there was a punk rock guy and it started carrying punk rock records. They would be beside the counter on some crates. There were no pop records in the store, you had either rare classical and jazz or weird punk records. There were record stores in the mall that had like Billy Joel records. So that was it. You just go to get punk records, there was nothing else so it was kind of great.
So did the records there save your life?
Oh sure. It just made it a little bit easier. Now, if you are growing up in a small town you have the Internet but you don’t know, it is so, um, it is too free. I mean it’s too unfettered. There’s too much music and there are too many opinions.
It’s like a haze of information now?
Yeah. It’s like the loudest opinion will win or the most clearly defined opinion. When you’re a kid you’re pretty immature about stuff like that so you end up listening to a lot of shit. I listened to a lot of shit when I was a kid and I still do. But having a really good store was nice as there was an opinion in that store that was something local. It was something you could argue with, you could embrace it or be against it. You were dealing with something localized that seemed more manageable and when you discovered something from outside it was kind of a revelation.
Like what?
I remember the college radio station didn’t like The Smiths when they first came out but WTR-a harder station to get- did. I heard the first Smiths record there and the Princeton record store didn’t have it so I took a train to New York. I was like 12 or 13. I skipped school and went with a friend and found a record store with it. I was made fun of in the store cause I got the name wrong. I said “The Smiths Brothers” and I kept saying that and they were saying “I don’t know what you’re talking about”. I said “Well this song- This Charming Man” and they were like “Oh! The Smiths! Duh!” and I was really embarrassed. But then about five years ago I told this story to a friend of mine and they were like “You were from a foreign town and you took a train to New York. You were like 12 or 13 and you found a record store and you got the Smiths first record on 12” import and the guy made fun of you because you didn’t know what you were talking about?! Well that’s pretty cool!” I was like “Yeah! Well fuck that guy!” Then I felt great, as I was the only guy with the song. But I feel now there is a difference. There is so much information and so many records coming out.
You have been in other bands before like Pony and Speedking and now you’re in LCD Soundsystem. Is LCD Soundsystem just another stage or are you in this for the long haul?
I don’t know. The big difference to me is the bands that I was in before, I was a guitar player and singer and I was terrible. In Pony and Speedking I decided I was going to be a drummer. That seemed really dignifying. That was always going to be temporary as I cold never deal with people super- well in bands. Like, I don’t collaborate well. I get too frustrated and get panic attacks and have to leave. I used to lock myself in the bathroom during Pony and Speedking practices ‘cause people don’t listen to each other and there’s no hierarchy. I just can’t be around that. So LCD is easier, it suits my personality. I have been able to make dance records by myself and able to go on tour with the band. If I just wanna be by myself working on stuff in my house, it’s fine.
Thinking about that,you made a Fabriclive CD. What was that like?
Well, I hate doing mix CD’s for various different reasons. They are hard to do because eh, I used this analogy a few times before. It’s like acting a movie on the phone. The thing for me about Djing is playing records to people. I am able to react to how people are responding and without that you’re just, well, you could just go home and do what you want. But this was fun as Pat (the drummer) and I have been Djing on these tours regularly. We wrote them down and sent them in and got most of them approved.
Your new album Sound of Silver is a lot more seamless compared to the jagged sounds on the first album. Would that be true?
Well I looked back at the first record and I was a little disappointed that the songs sounded a little too different from each other and not like there was too much variety. It sounded like, incongruous. I made this song and then I made this other song at a different time. I was just really obsessed about making this album more similar and more cohesive and more as a piece if that makes any sense.
One of the songs is called North American Scum. Were you afraid some people, especially North Americans may take the wrong impression when they heard it first and saw the title?
I’m not really afraid. I am quite sure people do get it. It doesn’t really bother me in theory. It’s not something I get too worked up about. I get somebody who will say something and it’s very presumptuous. It’s funny because I thought my presumption was that people in the U.S would get it and people in the U.S would get mad and I was shocked to find that it was almost the complete opposite. Americans totally got it, people outside the States didn’t get it at all. What I think is outside the U.S people think they have a good grip on American culture because it is such a diasporadic thrust. There’s American TV and films everywhere. You think you have a really good grip on what American culture is like because I am inundated with it in a way Americans are not inundated by other places. But all that stuff is Hollywood and media, which is completely different to what actual people are like. It’s the most unapologetic and simplistically overconfident part of the culture, an unreflective, overconfident part of the culture.
It’s weird when you think of that cause you go “wait a minute!” In the seventies we had American film, pre-Star Wars which was incredibly thoughtful and incredibly introspective and filled with identity questions. All American punk rock is about identity questions and the same with American indie rock to a certain degree. So those people totally understood the feeling of growing up and wishing to be from somewhere else. Most of the Americans who were in the position of hearing the record were definitely the people who went through that phase. They understood the double meaning. I was surprised and kind of proud of my brethren not really needing to ask about it. They weren’t like “So are you criticizing Bush?”
That’s what you must be getting over here (in Europe)?
Yeah, like every French interview. I love France and I get on really well there. The people are very welcoming and accepting but that one song…. I was getting “You’re not really American. You’re from New York and I would just say “What the fuck are you people saying?!” That’s a European classic. I go “ have you been to New York?!” It’s not a European city. It’s a very specific American city. That’s a really common perception that New York is not American.
I am always stunned when people say that to me and think it’s a compliment. It’s like “Wow!” It usually comes in the same breath that Americans don’t usually know other places other than America and think they know everything. What they are basically telling me is that they think they know all about my country but they don’t.
And you’re not really from New York anyway!
Yeah. I grew up in a small town that changed a lot. When I was born it was a farm town with a couple of suburban houses. There were no trees and it was built around very tiny towns from the 1600’s. My town became bigger and overtook those. So growing up it was half of these low-rent suburban kids and farm kids. My neighbourhood also was forty percent Taiwanese, which was really strange. It was just a weird little place. There were a lot of drawbacks for a lot of the kids like the small mindedness but on the plus side people just didn’t mouth people off. People didn’t get away with this kind of psychological cruelty without getting a punch in the face.
What do you mean by psychological cruelty?
Like these kids and friends I know who went to fancier prep schools. The viciousness of kids always trying to outdo one another, always saying the smart ass things, always trying to make you look stupid, always trying to humiliate you. That sort of thing was very alien to me. Where I was brought up if someone tried to humiliate you, you punched them in the face. But these kids would go “Oh you got to resort to violence?” and I am like “Yeah! You’re being an asshole! You are going to continue being an asshole so I am gonna punch you in the face so maybe next time you’re not going to be an asshole to someone bigger than you”. That was sort of my childhood.
I suppose you still get that now?
Yeah. Like, I was in London and was Djing and this guy goes like “I like some of your records but I think your set is shit”. I just grabbed him by the collar and said: “This is what it is going to be like. I am going to come over the fucking barrier and I am going to kill you. I am going to beat the shit out of you”. First of all I thought to myself “You think you are being clever. You think you have a deep sense of irony. You think you’ve got me. That’s what you think but you are wrong”. This had already happened to me there like thirty times so he was at least thirty deep in the same fucking hole. I was going “You have never met me before and you come and talk shit to me like that, thinking it’s ok cause I’m famous?! You presumptuous ignorant fuck!” He was shitting in his pants and saying I should be able to take criticism. I said I could take criticism from people I know and my friends and are you really telling me that you would walk up to someone in the street and say “You look like a fucking idiot” and not expect to get punched?
This guy obviously grew up in a cruel environment where you got respect from humiliating somebody and showing others that you were just not a simple person. Everyone else was enjoying themselves there and if he didn’t like it he could just go.
So what did you do?
I told him “You are going to look at the floor and walk out. If you so much as make eye contact with me or say a fucking word I am going to come up and beat the shit out of you in front of everybody”. So he left. It was a very satisfying moment!
So you lost your temper. On that note, thinking stupidly, are you afraid of loosing your own edge?
Not really. I think it’s a natural curve to things I am comfortable with.
Are you going to age gracefully?
Nah! I am 37 and I am still doing this. I think I missed that opportunity! Now I actually wanna do even more embarrassing things that I am too old to do. I am training to fight. I am doing Brazilian ju-jitsu!







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